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Elinor

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? Can someone help me?

? I use Wordstar with Microsoft Dos system on a Windows98 computer.

I must have pressed something at some time or other and lost the ability to save any added material to a document or letter.? It will save the first time that I write to a document.? However, when I open the document and add to it, it will not save the added material when I control KD it.? I am working on a Wordstar 3.31 program.? Does anyone have any idea what I can do to restore the ability to save added material.?
« Last Edit: May 29, 2006, 04:56:52 PM by Elinor »

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Re: Wordstar stopped saving anything added to a document. I need help.
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2006, 12:44:14 PM »
Elinor,

A few questions:
  • Have you made any changes to the computer recently?
  • Have you copied your documents via a CD?
  • How many files are there in the directory (folder) where you are having problems with these files (use DOS' DIR command to list them - it should include a count of the files)
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Re: Wordstar stopped saving anything added to a document. I need help.
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2006, 07:30:35 PM »
Mike

I just responded by E-mail to your questions and just realized I could respond this way I think.  Anyway you will be deluged with my replies.

No changes to computer recently and have not copied documents via CD.

There are 79 files on one WS3.31 directory and 30 files on another WS3.31 directory that I call WS2, which I added to see if a fresh copy of the program would save an edited file or addition of new material.  It did not.  Nor will it rename a file.

Perhaps I need an earlier version of Dos than the one that is on the Windows98.

Thanks again for any help.

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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2006, 11:24:59 PM »
Elinor,

Was this working and then stopped working, or are you only just starting to try and use WordStar 3.x on a Windows 98 computer?

Your answer may be in the following article on the WordStar Resource Site Web site help pages: http://www.wordstar.org/wsdos/kb/Q2004.htm

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Re: Wordstar stopped saving anything added to a document. I need help.
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2006, 05:23:15 PM »
Mike

Will go to your suggested site but first want to let you know that WS3x was working fully when installed on Windows98 in 1998.  It could save edited
documents. rename, etc.

Now I will go to the site you suggested.

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Re: Wordstar stopped saving anything added to a document. I need help.
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2006, 05:52:10 PM »
Mike

I have looked at your site.  The solution says I should boot into real mode or reboot to Dos mode and stay on a partition that uses the FAT16 format.  Any partition under 512MB should meet this latter requirement.

Trouble is I don't know how to do that (partition, etc.).  I always have  to boot into DOs (i.e., MS DOS) mode to get to my WS directory and files.  I don't understand what real mode is either.

I have a feeling that when I lost the ability to save altered files it was because I pressed something that eleminated something in DOS.  Maybe there was a partition.  However, the person who helped me install WS in no longer with us.

So now I need to know how to partition using a FAT16 format, et al.

Thanks loads for your help.

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Re: Wordstar stopped saving anything added to a document. I need help.
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2006, 01:34:39 AM »
Also, I wonder if anyone knows someone in New York City that has gone through this and knows how to do a partition, etc.  Someone perhaps I could call.

Thanks again.

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Re: Wordstar stopped saving anything added to a document. I need help.
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2006, 05:53:49 AM »
Saturday, June 03, 2006

Hi Elinor!

Other dealing with WS3 inability to work on newer systems, I would suggest going to www.writeandset.com and use Write&Set.  You should find using this WS4 clone similar to WS3.

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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2006, 06:27:43 PM »
Phil,

Thanks so much.  Will let you know if it works for me.

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Re: Wordstar stopped saving anything added to a document. I need help.
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2006, 09:13:30 PM »
I still need help. 

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Re: Wordstar stopped saving anything added to a document. I need help.
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2006, 12:36:49 PM »
Elinor,

Open Windows Explorer and then right-click on the C: disk drive icon, then select Properties. On the screen that will open it should tell you that C: is a Local Disk and it's File System is... The choices will be FAT, FAT16, or FAT32. It should also tell you its Capacity.

What you need are FAT16 and 512Mb or less capacity.

Real Mode is one way your processor can be set to work - all Intel CPUs start this way, but better operating systems then switch them into Protected Mode, which is used to help stop one program from interfering with another by protecting the memory area it uses. Don't worry too much about that for now.

The only changes that I can think are likely are that you either installed a program that altered your AUTOEXEC.BAT or CONFIG.SYS files in C:\, which you could check by looking at these to see if there are any copies with different names after the dot, and any versions have a date about the time you noticed the problem start; or, you ran a Windows utility to convert from FAT16 to FAT32.

Can you copy your WS directory to a floppy? If you can you could try running it from there. You'll probably see some erors and have bits of WordStar missing, but I think it should run. If it does, try creating a new file and then make and save some changes. If that works we can sort out the errors.

The other options are as Phil has suggested - to switch to a later program, either Write&Set or even WS 4 onwards.

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Re: Wordstar stopped saving anything added to a document. I need help.
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2006, 01:42:23 AM »
Before you go to the trouble of re-formating and partitioning a disk drive, there is a way to test this solution first.

Copy the file to a floppy disk, and then try and edit and save the file on a floppy.

If that works, then the partitioning may very well be your problem.

If it doesn't work on the floppy, then partitioning is a waste of time and effort.

For all floppy disk drives are Fat-16 by default!


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Re: Wordstar stopped saving anything added to a document. I need help.
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2006, 07:02:25 PM »
Thanks Mike.

I have printed out your last posting because I e-mail on my newish XP computer.

I will take the instructions to the Windows98 and investigage.

Will let you know.  And thanks so much for your input.

Elinor

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Re: Wordstar stopped saving anything added to a document. I need help.
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2006, 12:19:59 AM »
Hi - This is a different Mike.

I have seen something like this before. I think the problem is caused by somehow you have managed to protect (make read only) your wordstar files in maybe both directories.
Thus wordstar can read a file, change it (in memory) but is unable to write it back.

Test this by writing the file to a different? directory or floppy. Then read it and see if the changes have been retained.

Wordstar can protect/unprotect files, (see ALT + F menu) but I am not sure if you can do this to all the files in a directory or the directory itself easily, which would explain your problem.
Please advise test results.
Good Luck - Mike Newcomb

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Re: Wordstar stopped saving anything added to a document. I need help.
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2006, 11:52:48 PM »
Hi both Mikes:
Thanks so much for the info.  I've tried everything I think.  I copied the file to a floppy disk and tried to save after editing.  It did not.
I'm thinking I should try to get a Wordstar 4 if the commands are the same as Wordstar 3x.  All this is for my husband who is a lawyer and does contracts, briefs, etc.  He had an old 1992 PC which recently crashed.  He has copies of forms, etc., on 3 1/2 floppies.  On the PC that crashed, he was able to save and do all things on 3.31 except print to updated printer.  For that he would copy a file to a Wordstar 5 directory and it successfully printed out the 3.31 file.  He never learned the Wordstar 5 commands, etc. because it is so different from what he was used to.  Now I'm  hoping if someone knows if Wordstar 4 commands and settings are similar to 3x and where , if so , I can find a copy.